G&M Consulting Podcast
The Behavioral Health Underground
Real conversations about the business, compliance, and operational realities of behavioral health.
Join Gary Humble and Sonda Kunzi as they bring two sides of the industry together to explore the challenges behavioral health organizations are navigating behind the scenes.

Where Behavioral Health Operations Meet Compliance
Running a behavioral health organization involves much more than delivering great care. Behind the scenes, payer contracts, credentialing requirements, reimbursement challenges, documentation expectations, compliance risks, and operational decisions all play a role in an organization’s ability to operate successfully and grow.
The Behavioral Health Underground brings those conversations to the surface. Co-hosted by Gary Humble and Sonda Kunzi, the podcast brings together managed care and operational strategy with coding, documentation, auditing, and compliance. Together, they explore what happens when the business and compliance sides of behavioral health intersect.
Two Perspectives. One Industry.
Bringing together the operational and compliance sides of behavioral health.

Gary Humble
Managed Care • Contracting • Operations
Gary brings the managed care and operational perspective, with a focus on credentialing, payer contracting, reimbursement, network participation, and building the infrastructure organizations need to successfully manage payer relationships.

Sonda Kunzi
Coding • Auditing • Compliance
Sonda brings the coding and compliance perspective, helping behavioral health organizations navigate documentation, auditing, medical necessity, regulatory expectations, and the compliance risks that can develop as organizations grow.
Together, they’re having the conversations that happen where clinical care, compliance, reimbursement, and operations meet.
Listen to The Behavioral Health Underground
Real conversations about the operational, financial, and compliance challenges shaping behavioral health.
The Conversations Behind Behavioral Health
Behavioral health doesn’t operate in silos. Payer requirements, credentialing, reimbursement, documentation, compliance, and day-to-day operations are often more connected than they appear. The Behavioral Health Underground explores those connections, bringing Gary and Sonda’s perspectives together to talk through the challenges, decisions, and realities behavioral health leaders encounter behind the scenes.
MANAGED CARE · CONTRACTING · CREDENTIALING · REIMBURSEMENT · DOCUMENTATION · AUDITING · COMPLIANCE · OPERATIONS